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These books appear to have been undeleted. I am closing this thread as it is getting a bit too long and unwieldy. Please open any further requests for game book undeletions in a new thread. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to request the undeletion of some game guides, seeing as there's the new Wikibooks:Strategy guides policy:

I might request the undeletion of more soon, if anyone's ok with that.

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 17:43, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few suggestions, too.
I'm super excited that you've allowed strategy guides again! Scrooge200 (discuss • contribs) 17:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: and @Scrooge200: Done. Couple of notes:
Thank you so much. I really appreciate this. Sadly there are a lot of sub-pages (like on Final Fantasy I) that need to be undeleted, but it's probably too time-consuming for you to, I'd imagine? 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a list of such pages @2005-Fan:? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'll start with Final Fantasy I. it was transwikied to WikiDream, which is now long gone:

I could move these as subpages of Final Fantasy if undeleted. Also, if I list the subpages for more pages, it could clog up this page. In case of that, is there anywhere else to list them or is it suitable to list here (assuming these requests are moved to an archive)? 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. As you have noticed, I've given you reviewer early so that you can move these pages without having to create redirects. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed, thank you! I've moved roundabout all of them. Sadly, there's so many that I found a couple of more:

There's even more (ex: enemies, items, weapons, armor) but because they can prob merge into a subpage, I'll link an example of each (perhaps can be converted into redirect) so I can see how they formatted these back in the day and figure out how to integrate them into one of the subpages (e.g. Goblin is enemy, so see if it can go into Final Fantasy/Enemies):

@Leaderboard:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done, except that FF1: Ice Sword and FF1: Oxyale does not appear to exist. Also it's OK to list the pages to undelete here, it'll be archived later. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok? Okay, so apparently FF1: Goblin redirects to a deleted page, so FF1: Imp will need to be undeleted. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done, and yes, it's OK to list the pages for deletions even if it's long. Go ahead. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, just thought you'd be overwhelmed by all the pages (it's a big project). I'll post more then:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@2005-Fan: Done as long as they existed. Keep it in this format. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:59, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in FF1: format? I moved a lot to becoming subpages of Final Fantasy. This should be roundabout everything undeleted. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: I meant keep the pages that you want to be undeleted in this format (that is, a list). Makes undeleting faster. What you're doing is right. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh you meant don't add pipe links. Yeah I've been trying to not do that in the last few lists. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
missed one: FF1: Dark 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the subpages from some of the game pages listed above:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Leaderboard also can you undelete Wikibooks Pokédex? I'll move it to Pokémon:Pokédex 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done as long as the pages existed (some didn't). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: also, copying what was on Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:Index List to Pokémon:Pokédex article Without undeleting the template? The Pokedex was transwikied to a now-defunct wiki in late 2006 (gmcfoley.com no longer exists). 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:48, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: This is what I see (edit the source):
<div style="text-align:center">
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by ability|Ability]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Alphabetical Index|Alphabetical]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by egg group|Egg Group]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Evolution Index|Evolution]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by gender|Gender]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon Moves|Moves]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Fiore Index|Fiore]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Hoenn Index|Hoenn]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Johto Index|Johto]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:National Index|National]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Japanese Index|Japanese]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by stage|Stage]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by type|Type]]
</div>
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Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard:
The following can be undeleted:
Wikibooks Pokédex:Alphabetical Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Evolution Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon Moves
Wikibooks Pokédex:Fiore Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Hoenn Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Johto Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:National Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Japanese Index
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan Super Mario World/Yoshi's Island/Iggy's Castle and Super Mario World/Vanilla Dome/Vanilla Dome 3 might be a bit too minimalistic, though possibly tagging them as {{stub}} would be okay for now. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 00:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a massive list of Pokémon stuff @Leaderboard::

And some Super Mario World (and Super Smash Bros.):

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 21:28, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@2005-Fan: As long as they existed, Done (both deleting and, for the Pokédex ones, moving). Most of the Pokédex pages towards the end of your list didn't seem to exist. You will not see them on Special:RecentChanges because I set the flood flag to prevent polluting RC with these undeletions/moving. You can remove the "Human, not bot" option to see them. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 07:24, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The pages linked on Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI probably need to be undeleted as well. There are also some templates now redlinked on the pages. I could make some queries to list them if needed, but they will appear on Special:WantedTemplates within a couple days either way. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: Thank you, you've been a big help. I was going to say that a bot would be needed to fix the huge amount of Pokemon articles. Here's a couple of SSB pages:
And yes, I agree with @1234qwer1234qwer4:. Thank you for the reminder. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: What do we do about the template Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:Basic Statistics? It's on 300+ Pokemon articles but it can't be replaced using automation. There are also several type templates (e.g. Template:PokemonGhost (complete list can be found here) that could be bot replaced with the text that the template consisted of (ofc not categories, etc.) 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What's the problem with restoring the template? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I just thought it would not be allowed (seeing as if every wikibook had free reign on templates, it could clutter the wiki). 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:58, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why that would be a problem. Transcluding the same wikicode on dozens of pages is exactly the point of templates—and if it's in the scope of Wikibooks, it probably isn't "clutter". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It looks fine to me. That template is used in the Pokedex wikibook, after all. I've restored it. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard Do you think you can restore the other templates from the linked list as well? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Can you list them to me? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 05:18, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard see [1]. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Done - all instances of Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:(name) have been moved to Template:Pokémon/Pokédex/(name) as well to match the book style. Done under the flood flag. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 09:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but you really did not have to suppress the redirects now. They don't do any harm in template space, and even if we fix the hundreds of pages that are transcluding the old template name, viewing older versions in the page history will still be ugly. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: I didn't know that - don't think it would be too hard to write a script to restore the redirects if needed though. P.S: there are 118 tagged pages for deletion which will need to be removed - they are tagged as no longer required and hence I'm not sure. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 09:29, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, {{PokemonTypeMatchingKey}} looks like it needs to be restored as well. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:46, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, there are actually only 38 pages templates for deletion, the rest are the pages where the template is transcluded since somebody forgot to <noinclude>. I can remove the template, but I might as well simultaneously add (with <noinclude> this time) a category like Category:Book:Pokémon/Templates. What do you think? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't see an issue with your approach. Would be a good idea considering how many templates that book has. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 10:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It seems it's even crazier than I thought. All the 254 candidates for deletion seem to be listed just because of {{PokemonTypeMatchingKey}}—the rest are transclusions and transclusions of transclusions. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So I was not right and I had to remove the deletion template from 28 other templates. I added the category to all the templates. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Could you tell exactly what you want "fixed" in the Pokémon articles? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I already listed what i wanted fixed 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If it's about restoring the templates, a bot is not needed. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan, 1234qwer1234qwer4: I've restored the Super Smash Bros, FF4 and FF6 articles, and moved the FF6 articles to the right place. FF4 does not have much in it, and both of you can move to the right place with suppressredirect. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 11:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It appears that there were more pages in the FF4 book, such as the ones listed at Final Fantasy IV/Characters. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:06, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Done, though only half of the characters appears to exist. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:09, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: There's also some confusion with the "FF2:" pages that redirected to FF4: (as the original SNES release of Final Fantasy IV was localized as Final Fantasy II). Therefore all should be renamed as subpage of Final Fantasy IV:
Then there's also:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done in that I've restored all of them. I don't know much about which games should belong where - you can move them to the right place as before. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: hold on, there's a deleted page at FF4/Red Wings. It should be at Final Fantasy IV/Red Wings. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
FF4: Red Wings is now a broken redirect; it seems that FF4/Red Wings is the actual page to be restored. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan, 1234qwer1234qwer4: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think Pokémon/Pokédex/Beat Up can be speedily deleted. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 05:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: Can Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and Final Fantasy XI also be undeleted? Thank you 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 14:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: Okay, here comes the big list of subpages:
Final Fantasy X is weird because it has a separate wikibook that was called Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2), which applied to two games rather than one, so how do we handle this. Anyway, list for both:
@2005-Fan: Done where they exist. Done under the flood flag, so unset the no-bot option to see them in recent changes. You can merge the two books you listed into one. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard:
Here's some more subpages:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard:
Also, this template: Template:Final Fantasy VII/Walkthrough Navigation 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: Thank you so much. Also these two templates:
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard: Appreciated. I think I found a couple of missing ones for Final Fantasy X:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done (the last one had content which you can restore). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Leaderboard:
These were deleted for being blank as well. Perhaps they can also be restored?
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done where they exist. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I know you suggested I request temp admin, but I found these two loose pages as well (just so the whole set is done)
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:59, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one more for FF VII: Template:Final Fantasy VII/Character Navigation 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:20, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@2005-Fan: Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
{{RaiseAttack}}, {{SteelType}}, {{FlyingType}} and more look like they need to be restored as well, but I'm not sure there is a good way to get the full list. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Done --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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